"KeedyT" (traviskeedy)
07/19/2017 at 09:11 • Filed to: None
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"KeedyT" (traviskeedy)
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If you have to re-create EVERYTHING but the I.D. tag is it still the same car?
Honeybunchesofgoats
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 09:15 |
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It’s still original as long as there’s someone obsessive and rich enough to buy it.
McMike
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 09:15 |
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I’d be curious how much of it they preserved vs new/used parts.
Also, if you need 2x4s to prop the body together....
Party-vi
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 09:16 |
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The only original parts on my CJ are the frame, transfer case, hood, grille, and windshield frame. Everything else is new. It’s damn near the Jeep of Theseus.
benjrblant
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 09:16 |
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A restoration isn’t the original car anymore when you can’t find a buyer willing to pay any price for it.
fourvalleys
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 09:18 |
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I love this link at the bottom:
crowmolly
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 09:23 |
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On paper, yes, it is. Messing with VIN rivets is illegal (IIRC) which is why you sometimes see firewalls and titles for sale.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 09:34 |
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yep, it’s too far gone.
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KeedyT
> crowmolly
07/19/2017 at 09:56 |
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I was speaking more philosophically than legally though, to me that’s not “the 2nd Samba” anymore, it’s a collection of new parts.... to each their own though, I don’t have the scratch to touch the restoration or the ultimate value in any of my dreams.
functionoverfashion
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 10:02 |
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At least there’s this:
a British coachbuilder has been conscripted to replicate the missing parts of the body and incorporate as much of the existing body as possible. The result of the restoration, he told the General-Anzeiger , should document the Samba’s history rather than sparkle and shine.
So... they might not totally replace every single part?? I don’t see how but maybe.
I have had the same question with respect to old wooden boats; in particular, those often have nearly every piece of wood replaced in a resto.
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crowmolly
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 10:07 |
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Oh, I agree with you. It’s tough to draw the line.
And what would happen, say, if you took a survivor ‘71 Hemi cuda and transferred the firewall section/VIN to another car? Which is now the car?
As Du Volant
> KeedyT
07/19/2017 at 10:14 |
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Humanity has been pondering this since the time of the ancient Greeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
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KeedyT
> crowmolly
07/19/2017 at 12:14 |
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I think there’s a practical, reasonable place and purpose for that sort of thing, say where someone perfectly legally obtains 2 old cars with the intent to make 1 good running one (and lets say the non-running one has the legit vin/title where the other has been lost to time).
I don’t think it’s quite right for someone to transfer the VIN to pass off something very rare/collectible/historically significant as something it is not.....
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KeedyT
> As Du Volant
07/19/2017 at 15:46 |
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Thank you, that’s rather awesome, I shall add it to my inner library of interesting drivel, to supplant my most recent addition being the Dunning Kruger affect :D